Friday, November 15, 2019

John William Crump Horn 1862 - 1919

I now have to miss a few of my maternal great great grandparents out.  This is because my family don't know who my Mum's father was.  Mum was born illegitimately during World War Two, in 1941.  According to the Ancestry DNA test I have taken, I have some Irish/Scottish DNA in my make up.  As the majority of the family I know, and have researched, mostly came from Kent I can only guess that Mum's father had some Irish DNA.

It is possible that there is an Irish McDermott in the family but I need to do more research on this.

Back to John William Crump Horn!  John was also illegitimate!  His birth was registered in Thanet in 1862.  This was before the ruling came in that both parents had to be present at the registration of a birth in order to be named on a child's birth certificate.

Thus on John's birth certificate his mother names the father as William Henry Crump.



1862 Birth Certificate of John William Crump Horn

John's mother, Elizabeth, was a domestic servant on the 1861 census.  At this time young girls were often employed in domestic service and were therefore living away from the family home.  So it was quite common for young female servants to become pregnant.

John was born on 24th April 1862 in Clifton Cottages in Margate.  This was where Elizabeth's parents were living at the time.  Fortunately the family stuck by the young girl and brought John up as part of their family.

Unsurprisingly there is no baptism record for John.

The first census return that John features on is that for 1871.



1871 Census for John William Crump Horn (courtesy of Ancestry)

On the 1871 census, above, John is living at 2 Clifton Cottages which is in Clifton Street in Margate.  Although the road still exists the house no longer does.

John was living with his mother, Elizabeth, and her parents, Joseph and Elizabeth.  Also living in the house is John's uncle Joseph.

As far as I know John did not have any siblings.  Life must have been very difficult for John's mother.  She never married and must have lived with the taint of illegitimacy all her life.

On the 1881 census John is living with his grandfather (who is now a widower), his mother and his aunt and uncle.  Interestingly, John is now listed as the son of his grandfather, Joseph.


1881 Census John William Crump Horn (courtesy of Ancestry)


The family are living in a different house, this time at 2 Caroline Square in Margate.  Perhaps there was less scandal if John was listed as the son of the householder.  John is 18 years old and his profession is given as a lath render.  So John was involved with the building profession.

On 3rd July 1886 John married Mary Ann Setterfield.  There is no name given for John's father.  The couple married at Holy Trinity church in Margate.


1886 Marriage of John William Crump Horn and Mary Ann Setterfield

Holy Trinity church no longer exists as it was hit by a bomb and destroyed during the Second World War.


Holy Trinity Church, Margate



On the 1891 census John has moved back into Clifton Street.  He is living with his wife, Mary Ann, and their son, John William.


1891 Census John William Crump Horn (courtesy of Ancestry)


In 1901 John was living at 102 Milton Road in Margate.  His profession was still as a lath render.  He is living with his wife and growing family.  John's mother is also living with the family, although she is listed as a widow.


1901 Census John William Crump Horn (courtesy of Ancestry)

John and his wife, Mary Ann, had 4 children, not many really for the times.  Their children were:

John William 1887 - 1965
Dorothy Emily 1889 - 1925
George Henry 1890 - 1890
Henry Edward 1891 - 1912
Winifred Mary 1893 - 1979


On the 1911 census John is living with his wife and 2 of their children.  The family are still living at 102 Milton Road in Margate.  John lists his profession as house painter.  His son, also John William, was a hairdresser and his other son Henry Edward was a grocer's porter.  Sadly Henry was to die the year after this census was taken.


1911 Census John William Crump Horn (courtesy of Ancestry)


John died in the 4th quarter of 1919.  He was 57 years old.





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